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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 7/13/2023 9:16 PM
Like how it appears that you and your tulpa have very similar traits in the Myers-Briggs test, with some slight variations.
9:17 PM
That makes sense. If you're in the same brain, your mindset on most things will probably be similar to an extent.
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لمعرفة. 7/13/2023 9:19 PM
The main difference in terms of Myers briggs is that I am quite...slothful and I tend to theorize and focus on intriguing ideas. I am considered 'intellectual' or I thrived in the academic setting, but I scarcely put things into practice unless forced or truly interested. I keep information and skill---allow it to become lost. In simple terms, I am wasted potential at its finest. He is not.
9:19 PM
While we both lean towards logic, he is much more logical than I.
9:19 PM
I am prone to dark moods and get irritated at trivial matters.
9:22 PM
When it comes to temperament--I am phlegmatic. The "calm, easygoing" temperament. In my case, this is because I am much too lazy to react or sit in anger for longer than a moment. I let it go or 'give up on it.' Choleric is more task oriented. Ambitious.
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Luminesce: Poll results starting in 2012 through 2020ish for hosts and some tulpas MBTI: https://community.tulpa.info/topic/1069-personality-types-of-creator-and-hisher-tulpae/ (edited)
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9:26 PM
Less old 2016-2020 results for the Big Five Personality Traits Test: https://community.tulpa.info/topic/11364-big-five-personality-test-for-both-host-and-tulpa/
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 7/13/2023 9:27 PM
I'm interested now in testing Iota and I's MBTI's. We consider each other to be 'brothers', but see a lot of differences in how we percieve things.
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Luminesce: Wait I'm dumb (edited)
9:31 PM
huh, I only saw 2 pages I swear (edited)
9:31 PM
nvm nvm thread is active
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Nah if its been open for a decade let it stay. That way seems more amusing
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Also results seem pretty consistent https://www.reddit.com/r/Tulpas/comments/kd81ia/results_tulpa_creation_time_by_factor/ (mbti section) All INxx heh
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9:36 PM
Well I guess the e's don't see a point/need(?) And the s's wouldn't even consider it in the first place
9:37 PM
Mbti stereotypes ftw
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Luminesce: The E's don't make tulpas (edited)
9:37 PM
They have IRL friends
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(or at least lots of online friends)
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Or maybe it's stereotypes put into boxes represented by letters instead
9:37 PM
Spoken like the true intp I am
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 7/13/2023 9:38 PM
Me: INFP Iota: ENFJ
9:39 PM
That's interesting, I thought we answered the questions really similarly.
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I don't remember what I got last time I tried. More e and f leaning than sete but dunno if it put me over the edge on either.
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لمعرفة. 7/13/2023 9:40 PM
Very interesting
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Luminesce: Sorry, they weren't 2012-2013 results I mean they were, but also later years (edited)
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Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 7/13/2023 9:42 PM
Iota is just more outgoing than I am. His social battery lasts longer. As for the last letter, I'm usually really emotional, and it makes it harder for me to judge things rationally. Iota can handle his emotions somewhat better than me, so his judgements are more logical.
9:42 PM
I think.
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Well sete thinks like a robot so being more f than him isn't hard.
9:44 PM
Kek, it's kinda interesting at times to watch how he thinks but I just don't usually see the point of the overanalyzing/over-logicizing way he goes about it at times
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لمعرفة. 7/13/2023 10:00 PM
Malus' response to this amused me. (edited)
laughingtulpas 1
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:30 AM
i was talking around one of my friends about the idea of switching host status someday and letting myself kind of fade into the background, as mostly a hypothetical, and now theyre saying ive "gone too far" and wont talk to me anymore, not even to answer my questions of what they want me to do next
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even considering it is going too far? lmao what
2:30 AM
like as a hypothetical
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Oh dear. I’m sorry that’s happening
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Ebony 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 7/14/2023 2:31 AM
That absolutely sucks
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:31 AM
okay they replied but they still arent being clear. gah
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that kinda stuff has happened in the community before IIRC but it's not common and it's not a healthy thing to do IMO
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:33 AM
again its only something im vaguely considering esp given its a long way off in any case
2:34 AM
if it did happen itd be after a lot of communication
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 7/14/2023 2:34 AM
I don't see it as healthy, but you just brought it up in passing?
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:34 AM
i talked about the idea a little bit but i mentioned that if it did happen itd be a long ways away anyway,
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I mean, what you described to them is the most extreme thing you could have possibly brought up. No shit they were upset and terrified by that. If you do that you did go too far
2:34 AM
They aren’t incorrect
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:35 AM
i mean its not like i was going to kill myself or some shit
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 7/14/2023 2:35 AM
It can feel like that to a singlet.
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I mean…. It’s the tulpamancy equivalent
2:35 AM
Especially in the pov of a singlet
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Especially if someone is unfamiliar with the concept, it is very scary sounding
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:35 AM
i may have phrased it wrong, i didnt mean dissolving myself or anything. i just meant not being the main guy in charge anymore
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You basically just said “hey, hypothetically, what if I killed myself with extra steps”
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I do think they overreacted but what you brought up is something that most people don't consider
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Rusty
You basically just said “hey, hypothetically, what if I killed myself with extra steps”
Imo dissipation isn't really death
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the alt account in question
i may have phrased it wrong, i didnt mean dissolving myself or anything. i just meant not being the main guy in charge anymore
Ah so more like. No longer being the host?
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:36 AM
yeah
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 7/14/2023 2:36 AM
I mean, our original considers me the host.
2:37 AM
It's not a big deal. Ego death is not that.
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:37 AM
worst case scenario would be that i come out every so often to draw something, i wasnt considering a scenario in which i disappear completely at all
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They said this to a singlet that probably knows very little about tulpamancy and dissipation. I also don’t view it as death but you have consider your audience when saying such extreme topics
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 7/14/2023 2:37 AM
^
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I hope they will listen to your further explanations if you’re up to providing them. Because they will likely come around to some degree with enough elaboration and assurances you’re not dying
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I don’t think there is any way to explain to someone outside the community that doing that isn’t a horrifying and extreme thing to do. again I don’t think it’s a bad thing to change hosts but this is an outsider
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:39 AM
its just that i mostly was posing it as a far-future hypothetical so i dont know why they responded like it was something im doing Right Now
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changing hosts is very different from switching permanently + dissipation
2:40 AM
I can see why that would be upsetting to hear, especially if I was unfamiliar with any of the concepts
2:40 AM
sorry, coming back into this late
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:40 AM
i never intended to imply i was switching permanently
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The way you first described it certainly sounded that way
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:41 AM
by fade into the background i just meant that i wouldnt be around as much. it was a bad choice of words on my part and i apologize
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Luminesce: You can't really assume that you'll just have a tulpa that will be okay taking over the host position (edited)
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:42 AM
yeah, i know that
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Luminesce: And it kind of annoys me that people always assume their tulpa, coming from the same brain, will just magically deal with life better than them (edited)
2:42 AM
Even tulpas who do deal with things better than their host usually get worn down by the same circumstances as their host if they try to live it 24/7
2:42 AM
You have to work on yourself, tulpas are supplementary to helping you out
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:42 AM
i was thinking of it more as 'something that could happen' rather than any kind of goal
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(on yourself, or on your living conditions, whichever or both)
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the alt account in question
i was thinking of it more as 'something that could happen' rather than any kind of goal
Luminesce: Well, no one here will encourage that outcome, optimal is living together with your tulpa(s). (edited)
2:43 AM
Dividing the life however you see fit
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The Tale of Koomer is a cautionary one etc etc
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That involved drugs
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yeah, I haven't read the whole thing yet because of that lol
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Not worth it
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:44 AM
my ideal personally, like as in what i think would be best for me, is eventually working up to like. half and half or something like that. because thats what feels fair
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its not a "i dont want to live half of my life" thing its moreso that i think thatd be the fairest arrangement
2:45 AM
switching host is just a hypothetical i ponder sometimes when i feel particularly exhausted
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Yeah, that's very different from what was initially implied 🤔
2:46 AM
I think that's a totally fine goal, if your tulpa wants it as well
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:46 AM
because what i was talking about initially wasnt my actual plans, just something i had been thinking aloud about
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Blanka wants to front significantly more often. It's something we're working up to
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the alt account in question
because what i was talking about initially wasnt my actual plans, just something i had been thinking aloud about
Totally fair. Gotta make that kind of thing clear though
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Ebony 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 7/14/2023 2:46 AM
^
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:47 AM
i kind of went into this conversation backwards i will admit
2:47 AM
glad we cleared up the miscommunication though
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Ebony 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 7/14/2023 2:48 AM
We’ve been fronting equally for 3 years and it’s been pretty good so far, our schedule was created out of spite but it still works pretty well
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You went from “I want to commit ego death” to “I want a normal healthy fronting schedule” lmao
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the alt account in question 7/14/2023 2:49 AM
i never said i wanted to commit ego death, i just phrased what i meant very badly and people kinda ran with it
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You described ego death but whatever doesn’t matter now
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